THE BIBLE IS GOD’S STORY – FROM CREATION OF THIS COSMOS TO A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH

This article is taken from an editorial by Jonathan Sarfati in Creation Magazine 2025, volume 47, issue 1.

Make sure you get it. there are great articles in this issue: the righteous Enoch of Genesis 5:21–24 is a N.T. hero (Luke 3:37, Hebrews 11:5) (p. 32). On Day 5, God created the amazing megalodon (p. 12), trilobites (p. 15), penguins (p. 28), and jellyfish (p. 46). On Day 6, He created the giraffe with its intricate blood pressure control (p. 18), the elephant with its trunk (p. 56), and dinosaurs— and their surviving DNA (p. 38) shows it was only a few thousand years ago, not millions. The global Flood radically changed the world for Noah (p. 34). It also left very clear evidence behind, such as Devils Tower (p. 21).

Some Christians dismiss Genesis creation’s importance. Some claim to be ‘New-Testament Christians’, ignoring the Old Testament. Others, the ‘Red-letter Christians’, treat only the Bible’s red direct quotes of Jesus as authoritative. One obvious problem is ‘cutting off the branch they’re sitting on’. The New Testament cites the Old Testament as God’s Word. The NT contains about 250 direct OT quotations. That rises to about 1,000 if it includes indirect quotations and allusions—including about 100 from Genesis 1–11 (see creation.com/nt).

Furthermore, NT citations of OT passages often include “God said” or direct quotes from God as “Scripture said”. Both affirm the divine inspiration of the OT. Even the ‘red letters’ are enough to affirm the OT. Jesus said, “Scripture cannot be broken” (John 10:35). When He said that, the only Scripture was the OT. He also rebuked opponents, concerning the foundational doctrine of the Resurrection, “have you not read what was said to you by God” (Matthew 22:31). The OT is God speaking to you! Jesus also said, over and over, “It is written …”, citing Scripture and settling the matter, for God had spoken.

To believe the NT logically entails believing the OT. However, a strong case for biblical (‘young earth’) creation can be made just from the NT.

Note in the ‘red letters’, how Jesus teaches about marriage in Matthew 19:3–6 (cf. Mark 10:5–9). He goes right back to God’s ordination of marriage as one man + one woman in Genesis 1:27 and 2:24. Jesus starts with His common rebuke, showing His high expectations about OT knowledge, “Have you not read …?”. Then He continues, “he who created them from the beginning made them male and female [1:27], and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’” [2:24]. Genesis 2:24 is part of the text, but Jesus explicitly stated the Creator Himself said it.

Jesus clearly affirmed the great Flood, Noah, and the Ark as real in Luke 17:26– 27, warning about a future judgment. Peter affirmed that the Flood deluged and destroyed the whole world (2 Peter 3:3–7). Further, he affirmed that only eight people survived—those on the Ark (1 Peter 3:20)—Noah, his wife, their three sons, and their wives.

The Apostle Paul taught about the Gospel and Resurrection in 1 Corinthians 15. In v. 45, Paul quotes Genesis 2:7 directly, “It is written … the man became a living creature”. Paul said this referred to “the first man, Adam”. Paul explicitly teaches that the first man, Adam, was God’s direct creation—not human-like creatures evolving from ape-like ancestors. Paul also taught the Athenians that the Creator “made from one man every nation of mankind” (Acts 17:26). Luke 3:23–38 traced Jesus back to “Adam, the son of God” (not the son of an ape!).

Paul also referred to Genesis 3, that Adam’s sin brought death into the world. (All long-age compromises place human and animal death before sin.) Thus Jesus, “the last Adam”, would bring resurrection from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:21–22, 45). And in vv. 35–41, Paul explains theological truths about the Resurrection body, alluding to the history of what God had created in Genesis 1, on Days 3–6.

Creation Ministries International (CMI) affirms the divine inspiration of both OT and NT!

This magazine is meant to be shared. And our ultimate aim is the spread of the Good News (p. 54).

WHY YOU NEED TO SUPPORT C.M.I.

In many ways, we live in a culture whose thinking is similar to those first century Greeks. Claiming to be wise, our society has become foolish (Romans 1:22); we have, by and large, traded belief in the Creator for the worship of evolution (and this has infiltrated the Church too). This is why Creation Ministries International (CMI), http://www.creation.com exists.

CMI’s ultimate goal is not to turn evolutionists into creationists (although that is part of it). Our vision is to see the Lord Jesus Christ honoured as Creator and Saviour of the world, yes, outside of the churches, but first inside the churches. How will others come to enquire about faith, if Christians in the churches do not believe their own book?

Once upon a time, many Western countries had at least some basic knowledge of the Bible. Our societies used to be predominantly Judeo-Christian. That is no longer so. With the advent of evolutionary ‘preaching’ at all levels of society and the ongoing suppression of biblical doctrine, all the heritage that was built upon Christendom is being eroded. Our countries have now turned into secular societies.

Just as we like to think we are enlightened here in the West, so the Greeks thought themselves wise. However, “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight” (Proverbs 9:10). The Greeks, for all their interest in learning about new things, were blissfully unaware of who the Lord was, as we learn from the Apostle Paul’s trip to southern Greece (Acts 17:16–21).

Paul introduced Christ as the Creator and taught that all people stem from one man, Adam. Referring to statements by local poets, Paul demonstrated that all people are God’s direct offspring (Acts 17:28); not the most recent descendants from some evolutionary chain of being (compare Genesis 2:7)

Paul had to start by laying a biblical foundation for the people in Athens. They lacked the Genesis knowledge that was second nature for the Jews, Peter’s audience. Modern Christians often forget this critically important difference, so when they compare the results of Peter in Acts 2:41 (3,000 converts) with those of Paul in Acts 17:34 (“some … believed”), they wrongly think that Paul’s method and message were practically useless compared to Peter’s sermon. On the contrary. At CMI we realise that Paul’s accomplishment was an astounding result, miraculous even! Peter was sowing the seeds of the Gospel in good soil, but Paul had a huge challenge before him. He had to prepare the ground first, because, metaphorically speaking, it was hard (the Greeks had no Old Testament knowledge), overgrown with weeds, and littered with stumbling blocks (false knowledge, 1 Timothy 6:20)

Creation Ministries International is a missional Christian organisation. Their calling is to support the effective proclamation of the Gospel by providing credible answers that affirm the reliability of the Bible, in particular its Genesis history. Their magazines, website, and newsletters teach (make known) that other side. Our culture is biased when it comes to origins; everything must bow to evolution. CMI exists to try to balance the scales. You can help—by subscribing to, reading, and passing on Creation magazine.

This low-key form of (pre-)evangelism will help prepare people to be ready to receive—and understand—the Gospel. You could think of it as removing the weeds of evolutionary biology and the rocks of evolutionary geology! People need to realise that evolution and its millions of years are strongholds of false thinking that must be demolished (2 Corinthians 10:4–5). People will not readily understand the Gospel if they don’t know (and have confidence) that there is a Creator. He made a perfect world, but the universe was cursed because of Adam’s disobedience—it wasn’t full of carnivory and death millions of years before Adam’s existence. If people remain in ignorance (like the Greeks), they won’t grasp the key teachings of the origin of death and atonement for sin like the Jews did. They miss that biblical knowledge, so it’s ‘all Greek to them’!

Usually, it takes time for a firmly established (but false) evolutionary worldview to erode. It’s no good building the Gospel on top of the rubble of someone’s confused ideas—a solid foundation needs to be laid first.

Surprisingly, there are even some people who know and understand the foundation in Genesis, and believe it, but they have not surrendered their lives to Christ to be born again. They accept creation, but have not (yet) knelt at the foot of the Cross in repentance. It’s a spiritual matter. The last chapter in the Creation Answers Book explains how one can be saved. However, as the saying goes: “You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink”. We can and should earnestly pray for the lost. Why not pray for someone you care about right now?

EXPLORING A CATASTROPHE OF BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS

Most visitors to geological parks don’t connect the rocks with Noah’s Flood. But that global cataclysm immediately came to mind when Dr. Felix Wong first went on a commercial-guided geological tour of Hong Kong. He told me:

The ‘geotour’ guides were showing us where a supervolcano had erupted, and water levels had increased catastrophically in the past. These secular guides did not seem to appreciate how this evidence for geological catastrophe impacted geology on a continent-wide scale, let alone global. Despite this evidence, they continued to explain the rocks purely from the perspective of uniformitarianism. This assumes that geological processes in the past were essentially the same as in the present. So, everything must be explained from a ‘slow and gradual’ standpoint, over great ages of time. An occasional local catastrophe can be invoked, but it is made to fit into this overall multi-million-year scheme.

Asked why he now spends time showing people evidence that Earth’s past was much more violent, he said: It is very much a personal motivation. If long ages from a ‘slow and gradual’ standpoint cannot be backed up by evidence, then the worldwide geological record, with all the death and violence observable in it, would be the catastrophic evidence of the global Genesis Flood—as identified by creationist geologists. Whereas if the long-age ideas were real, the death and violence we see in the fossil record would not have been the consequence of sin because these would have been in the world long before there were any humans. The whole message of the Gospel, and the credibility of Jesus Himself, who showed that He believed the events in Genesis really happened, including Noah’s Flood, would be undermined. This sort of evidence is life-changing.

Our main purpose is to help participants connect the rocks with the Bible, through an understanding of Noah’s Flood. The Flood ‘washes away’ the millions of years. I show how things that people have been taught take vast ages happened much more quickly and are found everywhere in the world, even in Hong Kong. Since 2019, we have run 78 tours with 1,800 participants in total. Most of our geotours have been in the eastern part of Hong Kong within the volcanic and sedimentary rock regions.

Besides the igneous rock, 15% of the land surface of Hong Kong is covered in layers of sedimentary rock. Felix explained:

Eroded from elsewhere, these sediments were transported and deposited by massive water flows into what geologists call sedimentary basins. Hong Kong has three of these basins: Tai Pang Wan Basin, Ap Chau Basin, and Pat Sin Leng Basin, with lengths of 30 km, 5 km, and 15 km (19, 3, and 9 miles) respectively. 

He pointed out that the geological features of these basins show that deposition was not a slow-and-gradual process:

For instance, the sedimentary rocks of the Tai Pang Wan Basin on Tung Ping Chau Island are at least 350 m (1,150 ft) thick, while the sedimentary rocks of Ma Shi Chau (Tolo Harbour Formation) are at least 500 m (1,650 ft).

Within the framework of the biblical Flood, such largescale sedimentary rocks would have been deposited during the early and late Inundatory Stage of Noah’s Flood. That is, when floodwaters rose upon the land. Then the exposed rocks would have been severely eroded during the Recessive Stage of the Flood, when the floodwaters were receding from the land back into the oceans. Such evidence can also be found from the exposed granite rocks which cover 35% of the land surface of Hong Kong. The receding water seriously eroded granite rocks into interesting forms including sea arches in Hong Kong.

HKCRM’s geotours have covered sedimentary rock regions including Tung Ping Chau of the Tai Pang Wan Basin (Fig 3), Ap Chau in the Ap Chau Basin (Fig. 4), and other sedimentary islands. The geotours examine mudstone, siltstone, sandstone, conglomerate, and breccia. In addition to these sediments, the deposited material also includes vegetation and animal remains in the form of fossils. Other features of interest include bedding details, recumbent folds (i.e., bent back on themselves by the force of water), and raindrop impressions. HKCRM’s geotours have covered granite rock regions, such as Po Toi Island. The exposed granite rocks were weathered by the receding floodwaters into interesting forms all over the island (fig. 5). When all these features are examined and explained, their relevance for past geological catastrophe becomes obvious and the participants on the tours are amazed.

God told us that in the last days prior to His return the world will deny God judged the world with the worldwide flood of Noah’s day and will be taken totally by surprise when He pours out His wrath once again on an unrepentant world.

Knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished.2 Peter 3:3-6

Abstract from an article HONG KONG SUPERVOLCANO GEOTOUR by Neville Chamberlain in Creation Magazine Vol 45, Issue 3, 2023

GOOD NEWS FOR THE WORLD

Here’s GOOD NEWS for the world!

Creation Ministries International seeks to give glory and honour to the triune God of the Bible as Creator and to affirm the truth of the biblical record of the real origin and history of the world and mankind.

Part of this real history is the bad news that the rebellion of the first man, Adam, against God’s command, brought death, suffering, and separation from God into this world. We see the results all around us. All of Adam’s descendants are sinful from conception (Psalm 51:5) and have themselves entered into this rebellion (sin). They, therefore, cannot live with a holy God but are condemned to separation from God. The Bible says that “all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23) and that all are therefore subject to “everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power” (2 Thessalonians 1:9).

But the good news is that God has done something about it.

“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life” (John 3:16).

Jesus Christ the Creator, God the Son, though totally sinless, took on human nature, so He could become our Redeemer. Then He suffered, on behalf of mankind, the penalty of mankind’s sin, which is death and separation from God. He did this to satisfy the righteous demands of the holiness and justice of God, His Father. Jesus was the perfect sacrifice; He died on the cross, but on the third day, He rose again, conquering death, so that all who truly believe in Him, repent (repentance = a change of mind) of their sin and trust in Him (rather than their own merit), are able to come back to God and live for eternity with their Creator.

He who believes on Him is not condemned, but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God (John 3:18).

What a wonderful Saviour—and what a wonderful salvation in Christ our Creator!

If you want to know more of what the Bible says about how you can receive eternal life, please email, write, or call the office near you. For more: creation.com/good-news.

I also believe God has raised up Answers in Genesis for such a time as this. The fact that Martyn Isles (formerly ACL) has joined Answers in Genesis confirms that belief. Christians need to be able to show nonbelievers that the Word of God is inerrant and therefore provides the true history of this planet. Check out their website http://www.answersingenesis.com.

THE ABUNDANCE OF COAL SUPPORTS A BIBLICAL FLOOD MODEL

Judging from the amount of coal found in the world, the earth before the Flood supported about eight to ten times more plants and trees than today. The Flood uprooted the vegetation and formed vast floating log mats similar to those found on Spirit Lake, north of Mount St. Helens, Washington state, USA, after the 1980 volcanic eruption. But the Flood log mats would have been much thicker and much more extensive.

Dinosaur tracks have been found on top of coal seams. This schematic and explanation show the how and why.

The log mats and associated plant debris would settle on the tops of BEDS (Briefly Exposed Diluvial Sediments), during a local to regional fall in the floodwaters (fig. 5a). Dinosaurs that had not yet drowned would swim to this island of brief safety, leaving tracks on the dense plant material (fig. 5b). A subsequent rise of sediment laden floodwaters would then bury the footprints with the plant material before it could float away. Cyclical rising and falling of water levels during the Flood would have quickly deposited huge amounts of sediment that contained multiple layers of plant debris. The increased temperature and pressure due to the weight of the overlying sediment would have turned the plant debris into coal in months, as has been experimentally demonstrated, resulting in multiple coal seams.

The BEDS geological model, based on the global Flood recorded in the Bible, solves many long-standing geological puzzles and helps us justify our confidence that the Bible is reliable.

An abbreviated version of the article A BEDS Origin for Coal by Michael Oard in Creation Magazine 2023, volume 45, Issue 2

LOVING GOD WITH ALL YOUR MIND

MANY PEOPLE, both inside and outside the church, think that Christianity means abandoning the mind. Nothing could be more wrong! Jesus’ “greatest commandment” is to love God with all your mind: our love for God must include our mind. Furthermore, the Apostle Peter told us, “always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you” (1 Peter 3:15). So our hope has a reason, and we should be prepared. And the Apostle Paul instructed us: “We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ” (2 Corinthians 10:5). That sounds radical: destroying arguments (but not people) against Christianity and bringing people’s thoughts (not emotions) to follow Christ.

Jesus Himself is called the Logos (John 1:1–14), from which we derive the word ‘logic’. We are supposed to be imitators of Jesus (1 Corinthians 11:1); thus, loving God with our mind should be logical. Furthermore, it was by and through Him that all things, including mankind in His image and likeness, were created. This divine image must include being programmed with language and logic.

Such programming is clear from the creation of Adam, “the first man” (1 Corinthians 15:45):

And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” (Genesis 2:16).

The language was not just about things Adam could see but included abstract concepts such as logic. For example, Adam could eat the fruit of “every tree” but one—‘every’ is a logical concept called a universal quantifier. Adam didn’t need to see each tree to understand this concept. But there was one fruit Adam must “not” eat—‘not’ is a logical negation. And if he disobeyed God (sinned), then he would die. This command presupposed that God programmed Adam to understand logical implication.

This passage also logically links death to sin. Many Genesis compromisers deny this teaching by claiming that Adam could not understand death without seeing a dead animal. However, Adam didn’t need to see things to understand them. E.g., how could Adam have seen a ‘not’? But since God programmed Adam to understand negation, He also programmed Adam to know that death is a negation of life. God also programmed Adam (and Eve) as adults, ready to multiply and take dominion (Genesis 1:26–28).

Creation Ministries International (CMI), including their flagship Creation magazine, exists to help readers worldwide love God with their minds and imitate Christ in logical thinking. In every issue, They interview good examples of that; in the latest issue, geographer Dr Sarah Buckland from Jamaica (pp. 18–21) and biologist Dr KeeFui Kon from Singapore (pp. 36–39). They also show how biblical creation is logically illustrated by super designs, such as the golden plover (pp. 24–25) and even the air we breathe (pp. 50–52).

An important teaching is the Flood of Noah’s day, which must logically be global (Genesis 6–8). With an intense process like the Flood, we don’t need millions of years to form the geological strata that exist today. But millions of years are necessary for evolution from goo to you via the zoo. The Flood explains the spectacular ammolite (pp. 12–13) and the wide Nile valley (p. 56). But God rescued a remnant of people (such as Shem, pp. 46–48) and animals on a massive Ark (pp. 32–35). After the Flood, people and animals migrated around the world, such as rafting monkeys (pp. 14–17).

Another great article, by Jonathan Sarfati, from the latest issue of Creation magazine: http://www.creation.com. “LEAVING YOUR BRAINS AT THE CHURCH DOOR?” in the Editorial section

ONLY CREATION CAN EXPLAIN THE GOLDEN PLOVER

THE ANIMAL KINGDOM contains many marvels that modern science has yet to fully explain. One example concerns the migration flight of the golden plover.

The Pacific Golden Plover (Pluvialis fulva) is a small shorebird, about the size of a dove. It lives from northern Siberia to western Alaska. Every year, these birds leave their young and fly south to spend the winter in South Asia, Southeast Asia, Australasia, or on various Pacific islands.

Of the Alaska-dwelling members of this species, almost all (including those stopping en route to more distant destinations) make a migratory flight to Hawaii, where the bird is known as the kolea. Alaska to Hawaii means an 88-hour, non-stop flight across more than 4,500 km (2,800 miles) of open ocean. The birds are unable to swim, and there is no land between these locations for them to stop and rest. Amazingly, for an individual plover to fly this distance would require more energy than is stored in its body.

Before departure, they put on additional weight, mostly in the form of fat reserves to sustain their long flight. On average, they gain enough to give each bird about 70 grams (2.4 oz) of consumable energy. Here is the dilemma, though; these birds in flight burn approximately 1 gram of energy per hour, so they should consume all their stored energy in about 70 hours, which is 18 hours short of Hawaii. However, each year the golden plovers make it to Hawaii. How is this possible?

As do some other kinds of birds, the plovers fly in a V-formation. This is so they can ‘draft’ off each other, which reduces the energy required to fly. This saves each bird, on average, 23% of the energy that would be used if flying unaccompanied. This is, however, not the case for the bird at the lead position, but the plovers take turns in that position and thus ‘share the load’.3 These golden plovers arrive in Hawaii every year with 6.8 g (0.24 oz), on average, left over from what they had ready for the flight. This provides insurance in case of non-advantageous winds encountered on the flight route.4

It is not uncommon for the plovers to lose 50% of their total body weight during this epic flight spanning less than four days. This is amazing. Imagine a 60 kg human losing 30 kg (65 lb) while jogging non-stop for this entire period, neither eating nor drinking—without any ill effects!

Sophisticated programming

The plovers’ innate abilities enabling them to perform this amazing migratory feat have all the hallmarks of design, engineered into their systems for migration purposes. Consider the following instinctive abilities, all of which are pre-programmed within the bird’s DNA, thus already in the fertilized egg:

  • Timing their substantial fat gain. Each bird needs to have this extra fuel already on board when the time comes for them to depart, together, on their astonishing odyssey.
  • Ensuring in advance the correct amount of fat for the distance needed. Too little, and the bird would plunge into the ocean and perish, its fuel all spent, before reaching its destination. Extra weight adds to the effort of flying this incredible distance, so with no possibility to rest, too much fat risks the bird again falling short of Hawaii, in this case from exhaustion.
  • Drafting off each other in flight. Without such a clever aeronautic strategy, even the extra fat they carry would not last the distance. Consider, too, the built-in ingenuity that causes them to alternate the ‘lead pilot’ position so that all of them share this energy-saving benefit equally.

All of this reflects a Designer with intelligence and ability beyond all human understanding. In His omniscience, He can say, “I know all the birds of the hills” (Psalm 50:11). This Designer, the Lord Jesus Christ, created all the original populations (kinds) of living things ex nihilo. He deserves our awe and praise:

O Lord, how manifold are your works! In wisdom have you made them all; the earth is full of your creatures.” Psalm 104:24

The article is taken from Creation Magazine Volume 45, Issue 2, 2023. Make sure you subscribe http://www.creation.com

EVANGELISE MORE EFFECTIVELY WITH CMI RESOURCES

Creation Ministries International (CMI), including their flagship Creation magazine, exists to help readers worldwide love God with their minds and imitate Christ in logical thinking. In every issue, they interview good examples of that; in their latest issue Vol 45, Issue 2 it is geographer Dr. Sarah Buckland from Jamaica (pp. 18–21) and biologist Dr. KeeFui Kon from Singapore (pp. 36–39). They also show how biblical creation is logically illustrated by super designs, such as the golden plover (pp. 24–25) and even the air we breathe (pp. 50–52).

And he [Jesus] said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. Matthew 22:37

In your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect, having a good conscience1 Peter 3:15

“​ Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.1 Corinthians 11:1

What else is in the latest edition? Proof of the flood of Noah’s day, which must logically be global (Genesis 6–8). With an intense process like the Flood, we don’t need millions of years. And millions of years are necessary (but not sufficient) for evolution from goo to you via the zoo. The Flood explains the spectacular ammolite (pp. 12–13) and the wide Nile valley (p. 56). But God rescued a remnant of people (such as Shem, pp. 46–48) and animals on a massive Ark (pp. 32–35). After the Flood, people and animals migrated around the world, such as rafting monkeys (pp. 14–17).

A team of scientists at Australia’s Monash University has “discovered a new universal rule of biological growth that explains surprising similarities in the shapes of sharp structures” across a vast array of living things.

Our universe is governed by many precise and universal physical-mathematical laws, reflecting its lawgiving Creator. Many medieval founders of science, such as Roger Bacon, Robert Grosseteste, and Thomas Bradwardine taught that the Creator upheld the creation in the language of mathematics. Centuries later, Galileo wrote that the universe is “written in mathematical language”. So the discovery that structures in living creatures follow a mathematical power law is fascinating, but not surprising.

This is just a small example of the valuable content of the Creation magazine. You need to subscribe. Go to http://www.creation.com to do so. I have at least 100 copies of back issues of Creation magazine if anyone wants some email me at ron@bakb.com.au.