Found this gem from Charlie Kirk’s memorial – Chris Tomlin sings HOLY FOREVER
We are fast approaching the time of Jesus return to planet earth. The first time he came as the Passover Lamb – to die in our place to provide a way back for us into a relationship with our heavenly father. The second time He comes as the Lion of Judah, captain of the army of hosts to destroy the Antichrist and his army at the battle of Armageddon and to set up His Millennial Kingdom. To discover the why, when, and how of Jesus Millennial Kingdom go to http://www.millennialkingdom.net.
“Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.” Revelation 19:11-16
Jon Mark Baker is the Director of Evangelism and Discipleship at Roots Church in Metro Detroit. He recently wrote an article in The Christian Post on January 29th, 2025, entitled “The Charismatic movement has a systemic problem: We tend to protect our leaders“. It is a revealing article in which he shares his own experience in the movement.
The silence of the shepherds
When the Lakeland Outpouring imploded, I was sad, but not devastated. “People fall sometimes,” I told myself. Todd Bentley seemed like a gifted man who needed maturity. I trusted Bill Johnson and Rick Joyner to handle the matter with wisdom. “Maybe Todd could actually be restored?”
Then in 2019 news broke that Todd Bentley had returned to ministry and had carried on with horrific abuse and sin that a panel of Charismatic leaders (people that I had never heard of) deemed to be disqualifying. But the big-name leaders of this movement that had so inspired me, the ones I knew and trusted were completely silent.
I was furious. Why the silence? Shouldn’t victims of abuse hear the voices of their ostensible shepherds rebuking wolves on their behalf? The very ones who took responsibility for “restoring” Todd Bentley after 2008, the very men who had laid hands on him that same year and appointed him as an apostle and authority figure within this movement are silent as church mice except to provide a rebuke to the whistleblower who had exposed things in the first place.
I have wept much in prayer over the last year. I pray for the saints whose faith may have been rocked by these scandals. But it seems painfully obvious to me that in our desire to experience God, we have forgotten to obey Him.
Amos’ rebuke to Israel (and to us):
“I hate, I despise your religious festivals; your assemblies are a stench to me. Even though you bring me burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them. Though you bring choice fellowship offerings, I will have no regard for them. Away with the noise of your songs! I will not listen to the music of your harps. But let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream! (Amos 5:21-24 NIV).
In the charismatic movement, much attention is given to praise, worship, contemplative prayer, and the types of disciplines that lead to spiritual experience. These are good. But the Lord says these practices are a stench to Him if while doing them, we have neglected justice. When the shepherds and sheep are silent in the face of the accusations against Mike Bickle, Robert Morris, Daystar Television, Todd Bentley, Chris Reed, Bob Hartley, and many more; when we merely shut our ears and sing our songs hoping for the next personal encounter, the Lord says He despises it because while we praise Him with our lips we neglect justice for the victims of these predators. I wonder if we have loved the experience of praising God more than we have loved the God of our praise?
To love God is to love what He loves, and to hate what He hates. Our God is the avenger of the abused and the punisher of the wicked. Our God is the Good Shepherd who lays down His life for His sheep. He leaves the 99 to find the 1. Our God sides with the oppressed.
Seek God, not the structures we have built around God
The charismatic movement is filled with people like me who long for a deep, experiential walk with God. When we discovered places like Bethel and ministries like it, we felt as though we “found our tribe.” And many, like me, began to trust these leaders and even outsource our discernment and walk with God to those who had seen more than we had.
But the prophet Amos has a rebuke to us as well:
“This is what the Lord says to Israel: “Seek me and live; do not seek Bethel, do not go to Gilgal, do not journey to Beersheba. For Gilgal will surely go into exile, and Bethel will be reduced to nothing” (Amos 5:4-5 NIV).
Resist the temptation to eisegete here.
Bethel was the city of the King of Israel, Jeroboam. It was the seat of his power. Bethel was likely chosen because of its history of being a place where people met with God. After all, that’s where Jacob encountered the Lord and how the place got its name. (Bethel means “House of God.”) Bethel is where Eli judged Israel and facilitated the sacrificial system of worship to the Lord. Bethel became a place of power and safety for the Northern Kingdom and represented military might in which Israel could place their trust if an invading army came.
But in this passage, Amos is rebuking Israel for putting their trust in the structures that they had built around their history with God rather than in God Himself. God is saying through Amos, “Stop seeking the institutions that supposedly represent Me. Seek Me and live!”
Many charismatics have substituted the structures that surround their history with God for a genuine relationship with the Lord Himself. Many charismatics have forgotten what got them into this movement in the first place: a desire to love and experience God. Instead, many became infatuated with the personalities and institutions that have been built up around these encounters. They put their trust in the curators of “revival” and outsourced their discernment and more to those they considered to be fathers in this movement. They began to seek Bethel and not God, and the Lord was displeased.
Let’s return to our first love. Let us seek to know and love Him. Let us seek to please Him by speaking for the voiceless and holding to account those who have abused the vulnerable. “Let justice roll on like a river.”
Listen to John Mark Baker interview Lydia Marrow on Worship, The Bay revival and Revival as a lifestyle.
God is loving, but He is not only loving. Isaiah says, “I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted…. Above him were seraphs, each with six wings…. And they were calling to one another: ‘Holy, holy, holy is the LORD Almighty”Isaiah 6:1–3 Notice that the angels before his face day and night do not cry, “Love, Love, Love is the LORD Almighty.”
Lest we believe that God’s love in the New Testament eclipses His holiness in the Old Testament, the final book of the Bible reveals the present and future in a picture similar to Isaiah’s vision: “Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under his wings. Day and night they never stop saying: ‘Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come.” Revelation 4:8
God did not cease to be uncompromisingly holy when Jesus came into the world. God’s eternal character does not change (see Malachi 3:6; James 1:17). That means the following Old Testament declarations remain just as true now as when they first appeared in Scripture:
“Who is like you – majestic in holiness, awesome in glory, working wonders?” Exodus 15:11
“Who can stand in the presence of the LORD, this holy God?” 1 Samuel 6:20
“Your ways, O God, are holy.” Psalm 77:13
“Exalt the LORD our God and worship at his footstool; He is holy…. You were to Israel a forgiving God, though you punished their misdeeds. Exalt the LORD our God and worship at his holy mountain, for the LORD our God is holy.” Psalm 99:5, 8–9
Of course, holiness is not God’s only other attribute, which makes it all the more important that we refuse to reduce Him only to love. But we can distinguish holiness from love, so it serves as a good example. Notice how Joshua appealed to God’s holiness, not His love:
“You are not able to serve the LORD. He is a holy God; he is a jealous God. He will not forgive your rebellion and your sins. If you forsake the LORD and serve foreign gods, He will turn and bring disaster on you and make an end of you, after He has been good to you.” Joshua 24:19–20
To demons, God’s defining characteristic is His holiness. A demon said to Jesus, “What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God!” Mark 1:24
Only one attribute of God forms part of the name of a member of God’s triune person—not the Loving Spirit, but the Holy Spirit. The angel announcing Messiah’s incarnation referred to all three members of the Trinity. Note the prominence of God’s holiness and power:
“The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God” Luke 1:35
When Paul alludes to two godlike qualities, the Lord’s righteousness and holiness come to his mind:
“Put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness” Ephesians 4:24
It is imperative we remember that God cares as much that we share in His holiness as in His love:
“God disciplines us for our good, that we may share in his holiness…. Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness, no one will see the Lord” Hebrews 12:10, 14
Biblical prophecy reveals that persecution of Christians will escalate as we get closer to Jesus return. We are already seeing intense persecution of Christians. Apostasy is one of the major “end times” signs and we see that occuring at a rapid rate as much of the institutional church compromises with the world’s values that are contrary to God’s Word: gay marriage and homosexual pastors are just two that standout.
“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.” Matthew 24:9-14
Make sure you are one of those that proclaims the Gospel until the end, whatever that might be, knowing that He will be with you no matter what.
Extracted from an article by Randy Alcorn “God Is as Just and Holy as He Is Loving” on http://www.patheos.com November 21, 2022.