Dr. Michael Weis uses five main texts (Daniel 9:24-27, Matthew 24:15-31, Joel 2:30-32, 1 Thessalonians 4:13–5:11, Revelation 6:12-17) to systematically build the case for the Pre-Wrath Rapture position, while giving us the tools to explain it to others. Even if you don’t embrace this view, you need to know what those who hold to it believe. Learn how to tell others about the Pre-Wrath Rapture in the Studio Elective, “An Easy Way to Explain the Pre-Wrath Rapture Position.”
As those who follow my blog will know I support the PreWrath rapture position and I am pleasantly surprised now at the number of Biblical scholars that are posting on PreWrath. Dr Weis does a good job of covering all the relevant Scriptures.
David Rosenthal gives evidence of a rapture position that may surprise you. He systematically explores Matthew 24 and the 7 Seals of Revelation. He then gives evidences and a Scriptural basis for select events tied to the return of Jesus in, “6 Proofs of a Pre-Wrath Rapture.” Most of my followers would know that I hold the PreWrath Rapture position and came to it largely due to Dr Nelson Walters and I strongly recommend his YouTube channel.
The Bible clearly teaches a specific sequence of events before Jesus Christ returns to Earth. Some of those events will be bad, and they will be aimed directly at believers, therefore Christians must prepare themselves for very tough times in the 70th Week. Join Zion’s Hope President David Rosenthal as he outlines 10 proofs, or touchstones (evidences), of the Pre-Wrath rapture.
As many of you know I believe in the Pre-Wrath rapture position. David Rosenthal is not the only end times scholar supporting this position. I have posted Nelson Walters videos and promoted Alan Kurschner’s books on the PreWrath Rapture. I think you will agree after watching this video that Scripture supports this position.
UN proposes emergency powers over all nations if global shocks such as Covid 19 and even climate change eventuate in order to bring peace and security. Radical proposals are to be instituted in 2024 giving the UN total control over governments, and banks. Multi stakeholders like those controlling WEF will be asked to take control of segments of society by the Secretary-General.
The United Nations Is Planning to make a Covenant with the Many in September 2024. Will this begin the Tribulation? They call it the “Pact for the Future” Watch this Nelson Walters video for details and how this matches perfectly with end times Bible Prophecy. Might this be the covenant with the many that initiates the last seven years of Daniel’s 70th Week.
The woman, Mystery Babylon (UN) has total control and sets up the world for the Antichrist. We are seeing Biblical prophecy playing out in our day.
In the first video, David Rosenthal gives evidence of a rapture position that may surprise you. I say that because most churches hold to a Pretribulation Rapture position.
David Rosenthal systematically explores Matthew 24 and the 7 Seals of Revelation. He then gives evidence and a Scriptural basis for select events tied to the return of Jesus in, “6 Proofs of a Pre-Wrath Rapture.”
I recommend David Rosenthal and suggest you check out his website http://www.zionshope.org. Zion’s Hope was started by his father Marvin Rosenthal who wrote the book The Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church.
The second video is equally as good as the first but I will leave it up to you to decide which is more useful in conveying the truth of God’s Word concerning the rapture of the Saints and God pouring out His wrath upon an unrepentant world.
Alan Kurschner teaches the PreWrath timing of The Rapture of the church which I also hold. The predominant church position particularly in Charismatic churches is the Pretribulation position. This is a problem because it teaches that the church will not experience the “end times” tribulation that Jesus speaks of in the Olivet Discourse. The church will not experience the wrath of God which is poured out on an unrepentant world with the Trumpet and Bowl judgements once the seven seals around the Scroll are opened. But God allows the tribulation, which Satan administers, to purify His church. The wrath of God is poured out by God in judgement.
1260 Days, 42 Months, Time, Times, and a Half Time – Book of Revelation, Session 5 of 6
This is part 5 delivered by Alan Kurschner of 6 sessions from the Minnesota Bible prophecy conference on the Abomination of Desolation, Oct 1–2, 2021, at Conquering King Fellowship in Inver Grove Heights The speakers were Alan Kurschner and Ryan Habbena. I will post session 6 at a later date
God has used this video to change the minds of countless (ex-)pretribulationists over to the prewrath view in the past year. In it, Chris White and Alan Kurschner do a good job of presenting the case for the PreWrath position of the timing of the Rapture. I believe they also do a good job of appraising the pretribulation position fairly, giving extensive citations.
The timing of the video and its addressing the seven pretribulation problems is shown below.
Intro: 0:00 The Basics: 1:45 The Precursor Problem: 6:06 The Olivet Discourse Problem: 19:28 The 2 Thessalonians Problem: 40:23 The Revelation Problem: 58:59 The Imminence Problem: 1:18:29 The Same Time Problem: 1:44:04 The Early Church Problem 1:55:39 Outro / Credits: 2:13:32
This important new documentary, Seven Pretribulation Problems and the Prewrath Rapture, identifies seven flaws in pretribulation rapture theology. Identifying the problems, however, does not stop there as this documentary responds compellingly to these pretribulation problems with seven prewrath answers. This documentary marshals leading biblical prophecy teachers who walk through each of the seven problems, answering them with sound biblical investigation!
TEACHERS INCLUDE Alan Kurschner Alan Hultberg Charles Cooper David Rosenthal Ryan Habbena
7 PRETRIB PROBLEMS The Basics #1 The Precursor Problem #2 The Olivet Discourse Problem #3 The 2nd Thessalonians Problem #4 The Book of Revelation Problem #5 The Imminence Problem #6 The Church and Israel Problem #7 The Early Church Problem
There is a lot of information in this presentation. You will need to make notes and may need to pause the video on many occasions so you can at least note the scriptures. I suggest that you will need to watch this video several times to enable you to make the case yourself for the PreWrath position.
Are we seeing the stage being set for the “last days” war of Gog (Leader/Prince/King) of the land of Magog (uttermost parts, north of Israel, Russia) outlined in Ezekiel 38 & 39? Gog forms an alliance with Persia (Iran) Ezekiel 38:5 and ” it shall come to pass in the latter days, that I will bring you against my land (Israel)” Ezekiel 38:16. The other countries in the alliance to come against Israel are Sudan, Libya, Turkey and some of the -stan (Kazakhstan, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc) countries (all Muslim).
Iran celebrated the 39th anniversary of the Islamic Revolution in 2019 by stressing its hatred towards the US and Israel.
Millions took to the streets across Iran to mark the 39th anniversary of the 1979 Islamic Revolution in a show of violent force.
Listen to Joel Rosenberg present how he got involved in prophecy writing and specifically on Ezekiel 38 & 39. I am convinced that this call by God to write on Ezekiel 38 & 39 at this time in history is authentic and further proof we are in the “end times”. You will need 1 hour 15 minutes but I hope you will be challenged to look at these prophetic Scriptures more closely.
Do I espouse everything that Joel Rosenberg teaches? No, I don’t, especially a Pretribulation Rapture. I believe a Prewrath Rapture (at the end of the sixth seal) best fits Scripture. Moreover, I believe the Gog/Magog war is the final war at the end of the 70th week of Daniel. It takes place when Jesus comes back with the saints for the battle of Armageddon. Jesus then begins His Millennial reign from a restored Jerusalem. Joel believes the Gog/Magog war will take place before the seven years of tribulation (70th week of Daniel). Also, I expect the Antichrist to be Mahdi, the Messiah figure expected by all Muslims. However, one possibility promoted by Chris White is a false Jewish Messiah. It won’t go away, so I am still asking the Holy Spirit to give clarification. All in His good timing. Joel still believes he will be European, even a Roman. Let me know what you think the Holy Spirit is revealing to you as you study these prophetic Scriptures.
Dr Douglas Hamp has a special guest Alan Kurschner on his programme, The Awakening Report to discuss reasons why a Prewrath Rapture best fits Scripture and all of the problems with PreTrib and MidTrib rapture positions. Most of you know I support Alan’s PreWrath view of The Rapture of Christians prior to Jesus return to rule and reign from Jerusalem in the Millennium. Douglas Hamp has realised the PreTrib position is not Biblically tenable but is yet to decide on PreWrath versus Post Trib positions. I am confident that you will find this video instructive as did Douglas. He intends to have Alan back on his programme at some future date.
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