David Rosenthal gives evidence of a rapture position that may surprise you. He systematically explores Matthew 24 and the 7 Seals of Revelation. He then gives evidences and a Scriptural basis for select events tied to the return of Jesus in, “6 Proofs of a Pre-Wrath Rapture.” Most of my followers would know that I hold the PreWrath Rapture position and came to it largely due to Dr Nelson Walters and I strongly recommend his YouTube channel.
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Nelson Walters believes this is the greatest rapture discovery EVER? What happens if we analyse all rapture passages and the second coming passages at once? Nelson says we don’t know because no one has done it until TODAY. We learn what verses truly are rapture passages and which ones aren’t, whether the rapture truly happens in the twinkling of an eye, whether the rapture truly was a mystery until Paul wrote about it, and when it takes place (pre-trib., pre-wrath, or post-trib.). Click here to watch this Nelson Walters video and find the answers.
The Book of Revelation clearly shows a chronological order to the Resurrection and Rapture. Who are the first and who are the last to be caught up? What criteria does Jesus use? Does the Rapture truly happen in the twinkling of an eye, or is that a myth? Watch Nelson Walters’s groundbreaking video and discover if the last are first and the first are last as Jesus says.
This video does not address the timing of the Rapture which Nelson and I would put at the opening of the seventh seal which is the PreWrath Rapture position. Christians will go through much of the tribulation even great tribulation but will not experience the wrath of God which is poured out on the unrepentant with the Trumpet and Bowl judgements. Note it is in Revelation 6, at the sixth seal, we see the celestial signs that precede Jesus’ return mentioned by Joel 2 in the O.T. and Jesus in the Olivet Discourse, Matthew 24. Also Isaiah 34:4.
“And I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood, fire, and columns of smoke. The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes.” Joel 2:30-31
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” Matthew 24:29-30
“When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale. The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?” Revelation 6:12-17
To finish strong for God’s glory you require patient endurance. You have received the Holy Spirit to enable you if you will only say “Not my will but your will be done today“. Moreover, there is no higher calling, no bigger privilege, no greater joy, and you will be kept from the coming wrath of God.
“Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.“ Revelation 3:10
The following Scripture delivers a tough message but Jesus must be at the top of our pecking order.
“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple.” Luke 14:26-27
“Share in suffering as a good soldier of Christ Jesus. No soldier gets entangled in civilian pursuits since his aim is to please the one who enlisted him.” 2 Timothy 2:3
We have not ceased to pray for you, asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, so as to walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him: bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God; being strengthened with all power, according to his glorious might, for all endurance and patience with joy; giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in light. He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.” Colossians 1:9-14
Each of the seven churches of Revelation 2 & 3 represents the church in each of the last seven years (Daniel’s 70 weeks prophecy) before Jesus returns first to rapture His church and then to return with the glorified Saints to conquer the Antichrist army at the battle of Armageddon.
The Scripture Revelation 3:7-13 is to the church of Philadelphia, the sixth church in the sixth year.
“Jesus says, I have set before you an open door, no one can shut it; for you have a little strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name. Because you have kept My command to persevere, I will also keep you from the hour of trial (Rapture) which shall come upon the whole earth (wrath of God).” (Revelation 3:7-13)
Just as the six churches represent the church in each of the last seven years, likewise the seven seals also represent what is happening on Earth in each of the last seven years. It is at the sixth seal, the sixth year, that we see the celestial signs that precede Jesus’ return to Earth to rapture the Saints and to begin to pour out His wrath upon the unrepentant.
“When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale. The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?” ” Revelation 6:12-14.
It is at the trumpet blast at the opening of the seventh seal that the rapture takes place and the trumpet and bowl judgments are poured out on an unrepentant world for one year and ten days. Why one year and ten days. The year before a Jubilee year is always one year and ten days and the year following Jesus’ return will be a Jubilee year. It so happens that when God poured out His wrath the first time with Noah’s flood it also was for one year and ten days. Check it out.
If the rapture happens at the start of the seventh year it means that the seventh church. the church of Laodicea (Laodicea is a combination of two Greek words (LAO, meaning “God’s people”; and DIKE, meaning “justice or judgment”) Judgement of God’s people)
“I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent.” Revelation 3:15-19
Do you belong to a church that says we are rich, have prospered, and are in need of nothing? Or are you in a church like the church of Philadelphia?
“‘I know your works. Behold, I have set before you an open door, which no one is able to shut. I know that you have but little power, and yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name… Because you have kept My command to persevere, I will also keep you from the hour of trial (Rapture) which shall come upon the whole earth (wrath of God).” Revelation 3:8,10
It should not be surprising to us when an Old Testament account has a now and prophetic future meaning like the Exodus account of the blood over the door posts of the Passover Lamb. We know now that was to be a picture of Jesus, the Passover Lamb. The conquest of Jericho is one of these stories. One has to ask what purpose would God have to give Joshua such a crazy battle plan unless it was to be a picture of a future event. As you will see it bears many parallels to the last seven years of the 70th week of Daniel.
The Pattern of Seven Events is an essential and critical prophetic construction for the 70th week of Daniel, the last seven years before Jesus returns to first rapture the Saints and to pour out His wrath upon an unrepentant world.
The pattern of seven events is the “roadmap” of the 70th Week of Daniel allowing Christians to know where they are in each of the seven years and what to anticipate next, what the timing of those events will be, and most importantly how to “overcome” during the trials that are to come. This pattern of seven events is given by Jesus in the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, and Luke, in Joshua, Judges, Psalms, Daniel, Ezekiel, and in Revelation with the letters to the Seven Churches, and the Seven Seals. It is also in the meaning and order of the Feasts of the Lord. God gives us these numerous accounts so that we know He is in control of all that unfolds including the great tribulation that Christians will experience during this time.
THE RAPTURE
If we read the Conquest of Jericho account closely we’ll notice that the timing of the Rapture is given:
“And when they make a long blast with the ram’s horn, when you hear the sound of the trumpet, then all the people shall shout with a great shout, and the wall of the city will fall down flat, and the people shall go up,” Joshua 6:5
This passage bears an amazing similarity to Paul’s accounts of the Rapture: “For the Lord, Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.” 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).
The “last trumpet” is the final “long blast with a ram’s horn” on Yom Teruah just like the quote above from the Jericho Account. This is truly amazing. At the breaking of the Seventh Seal, Jesus will blow the trumpet of God and a great shout will go out. The dead in Christ will rise first, and, as the Jericho Account states, “the people will go up.” Just as in the seven-day battle of Jericho, the “symbolic Rapture” occurs after encircling the city for six days (six seals), at the very end of the Sixth Year of the 70th Week of Daniel, the Rapture will occur at the seventh seal (encircling the city seven times). The saints will be gathered together by the angels to our Lord and will enter a Sabbath rest in Heaven.
If you need further teaching materials on the pattern of seven events I have posted many posts and Nelson Walters videos on this topic. Do a search. You can also go to Nelson’s YouTube video channel.
In the first video, David Rosenthal gives evidence of a rapture position that may surprise you. I say that because most churches hold to a Pretribulation Rapture position.
David Rosenthal systematically explores Matthew 24 and the 7 Seals of Revelation. He then gives evidence and a Scriptural basis for select events tied to the return of Jesus in, “6 Proofs of a Pre-Wrath Rapture.”
I recommend David Rosenthal and suggest you check out his website http://www.zionshope.org. Zion’s Hope was started by his father Marvin Rosenthal who wrote the book The Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church.
The second video is equally as good as the first but I will leave it up to you to decide which is more useful in conveying the truth of God’s Word concerning the rapture of the Saints and God pouring out His wrath upon an unrepentant world.
Apostle Paul explains the timing of the Rapture in 2 Thessalonians 2 so clearly and yet many recognised scholars willfully deny the truth. This scripture clearly contradicts their doctrine that nothing has to happen before the rapture happens. The Rapture does not happen until after the Antichrist takes his seat in the temple and declares he is God.
“Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him… Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.” 2 Thessalonians 2:1,3-4
Why is this so important? It means that Christians will go through tribulation, even great tribulation that the Antichrist unleashes on all those people that will not take his mark. Jesus also tells us that the tribulation will be great but for the elect “those days will be cut short”. He also tells us that the Gospel of the Kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world and only then will the end come so Saints we need to be busy proclaiming the Gospel.
“For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be cut short.” Matthew 24:21-22
“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.” Matthew 24:9-14
This is Part 4 of the film 7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture. You can see the whole film in one video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwXoM… or go to Part 5 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8nQ6…
God has used this video to change the minds of countless (ex-)pretribulationists over to the prewrath view in the past year. In it, Chris White and Alan Kurschner do a good job of presenting the case for the PreWrath position of the timing of the Rapture. I believe they also do a good job of appraising the pretribulation position fairly, giving extensive citations.
The timing of the video and its addressing the seven pretribulation problems is shown below.
Intro: 0:00 The Basics: 1:45 The Precursor Problem: 6:06 The Olivet Discourse Problem: 19:28 The 2 Thessalonians Problem: 40:23 The Revelation Problem: 58:59 The Imminence Problem: 1:18:29 The Same Time Problem: 1:44:04 The Early Church Problem 1:55:39 Outro / Credits: 2:13:32
There is 99% proof that believers are raptured into heaven. Why 99%? Because few things are 100% in prophecy. Not only are there 3 verses that clearly show this, but scenes from Revelation also describe believers in Resurrection Bodies before the throne of God in Heaven. As most of you know, I often include Nelson Walter’s end times videos on this site and strongly recommend you sign up to his YouTube channel. I have met Nelson and am confident this humble man has been raised up by God to alert the church to the lateness of the hour and the many end times scriptures. Nelson also helps me with my other website http://www.powerpointsermons.net. You will be blessed by watching this video and am confident you will learn something new.
The heavenly censer with the prayers of all the saints spoken of in Revelation 8 symbolizes what currently shields the world from divine judgment, so its sudden casting down to the earth filled with fire from the altar must represent the removal of that covering. It is as if this is the final offering up of the prayers of the saints just prior to the Rapture, the censer is no longer needed to hold the prayers of the saints hence the angel filled it with fire from the altar and it is thrown to earth to initiate the wrath of God. Note: the Trumpet and Bowl judgments immediately follow in sequential and escalating order.
“Another angel holding a golden censer came and was stationed at the altar. A large amount of incense was given to him to offer up, with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden altar that is before the throne. The smoke coming from the incense, along with the prayers of the saints, ascended before God from the angel’s hand. Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and threw it on the earth, and there were crashes of thunder, roaring, flashes of lightning, and an earthquake. Now the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to blow them.” (Revelation 8:3-5)
This interpretation of the censer makes sense of the events that immediately precede the Rapture of the saints and the Wrath of God being poured out simultaneously. This is a perfect fit for the Prewrath position of the rapture of the saints prior to the Trumpet and Bowl judgements. That the heavenly censer is removed at the seventh seal thus provides additional verification that God’s wrath does not begin until the seven trumpets.
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