FIVE LEADING AUSSIE POLITICIANS SHARE THEIR CHRISTIAN FAITH

ARTICLE IN THE AUSTRALIAN JULY 23rd, 2018 BY GREG SHERIDAN

Sadly, most don’t recognise who Jesus really is and what only He could do for them. Nevertheless, this article by Greg Sheridan in The Australian is enlightening and worth the read.

I know most about the Liberal MP from Western Australia, Andrew Hastie. He is a committed Christian and understands Jesus is God in the flesh, and only He could provide for us, a way back into a right relationship with our Heavenly Father. I don’t believe the other four are born again believers.

Higher authority: Kim Beazley, Andrew Hastie, Malcolm Turnbull, Penny Wong and Kristina Keneally.

LIBERAL MEMBER ANDREW HASTIE (top left)

When Andrew Hastie went to Afghanistan on combat service with the SAS he wrote a letter to his wife, Ruth, the envelope sealed with wax, to be opened by her only in the event of his death.

He left the letter with a friend, who was to be part of the notification team, the small group that would go and see Hastie’s wife if the worst happened.

The West Australian Liberal MP’s parents have deep religious beliefs. Hastie rebelled against his dad’s beliefs for a while: “Around age 16 to 19 I was very aggressively challenging a lot of what I was taught. The question for me was: can I still be a good person without God? I had embraced the postmodern view I got at school — that I was a consumer and I could make any choices I liked. Partly I wanted to justify under-age drinking and having a good time.”

In 2000 his father took him to Biola University, an evangelical Christian university in California. On that trip he met Chuck Colson, the Nixon staffer who went to jail for his Watergate crimes, found God there and later got heavily involved in the Christian mission to prisoners in jail. Hastie also read a book about Christian belief: “The author started off with the empty self, describing narcissistic, modern man, and I felt he was describing me. That led me to ask the question, did I accept the basic tenets of Christianity? The next question was: how do I practise Christianity? What implications does it have for my weekends, boozing and trying to sleep with as many girls as possible?”

In one tragic incident in Afghanistan, Hastie called in American helicopter support to fire on two Taliban fighters who were planning to attack Hastie’s soldiers and the Afghan base they were visiting when the helicopters came to pick them up. Hastie knew this because the Taliban signals had been intercepted.

In the worst moment of Hastie’s life, the helicopters shot the wrong Afghans, killing two little boys, brothers aged six and seven. Hastie took control of his own emotional state, took a few soldiers with him to go out to where the boys had been shot and see if they were still alive and if there was any chance of saving them, then reported everything back to his bosses. He didn’t eat or sleep for the next 24 hours and for a long time had nightmares about it. The boys are still regularly in his mind.

Later, he pushed to be allowed to go and talk to the boys’ family: “It was about telling the truth and taking responsibility. I wanted to apologise to the boys’ uncle. The uncle was about 45 or 50, with a grey, weather-beaten face. He had assumed the role of defender of the family. The 16-year-old brother, you could see the anger on his face. The uncle acknowledged the ­approach and said: ‘You’re forgiven.’ For me, this prefigured divine forgiveness.”

This tragedy didn’t shake Hastie’s Christian faith: “Imagine if you weren’t a Christian, if you were a closed universe atheist, how bleak and senseless those deaths would be.”

LIBERAL PRIME MINISTER MALCOLM TURNBULL (bottom centre)

I was fascinated a few years back to see that Malcolm Turnbull had, as it was presented at the time, converted to Catholicism. As it turned out, the Prime Minister discovered that he had not been christened at all as a child, so it was not exactly a conversion. Certainly it was an embrace.

In private contexts, Turnbull is quite natural and forthcoming about his faith. When former Labor politician Mary Easson was gravely ill, Turnbull sent a mes­sage to her husband, Michael, saying: “Lucy and I are storming the gates of heaven itself with our prayers for Mary.” Easson herself remembers that when, after her miraculous recovery, she ran into Turnbull at Parliament House, and he hugged her. She was touched by his prayers, and his warmth.

Turnbull is clear that he does believe in the Christian faith. The way he conceives of it, as you’d expect, is individualistic, supple, nuanced. That is not to say it is better or worse than anyone else’s belief or lack of belief, but this is the way Turnbull conceives of religion.

He says: “I think of religion as a mystery. Just as poetry is that which cannot be translated, faith is in many ways that which cannot be explained. The Western tradition obviously wants to analyse and categorise everything. It’s important to remember that Christianity grew as a religion of the East. It grew out of a spiritual world which was a very mystical one. There are aspects of faith and religion that don’t bear analysis.”

Turnbull is not suggesting that faith is against reason, but that parts of it are beyond reason: “I think mystery is a very important part of it. Everything we do and believe and feel is not capable of the precise analysis of an economist or a chemist.”

Turnbull nominates the “selfless love of Jesus” as being close to the heart of Christianity and says that when we love selflessly is when we get closest to the divine.

I ask Turnbull if he prays: “Yes, I do. I’m cautious about talking about it. You’ve asked me a straight question and I’ve answered it.”

LABOUR SENATOR PENNY WONG (top right) – many paths to God

I catch up with senator Penny Wong for a discussion in the comprehensively anonymous offices made available to federal politicians when they visit Melbourne. It is the only discussion I’ve had with her where she seemed a fraction hesitant or nervous. I feel a bit like a dentist, inflicting pain for a (hopefully) greater good.

She says: “I don’t think faith for me is an intellectual exercise. It’s a much more instinctive, intuitive proposition. It’s hard to talk about, isn’t it? The way I like to approach politics, I like to be very rational and factually based and well prepared and talk about things in logical sequences, and I don’t think I’ve ever felt about faith that way.”

Faith is certainly not irrational, however: “The important decisions in our lives we make with reference to what we work with intellectually as much as we can, but they’re generally made emotionally and spiritually …

“It’s a very diverse religion, Christianity. Perhaps I have a certain view because I was born in Sabah (Malaysia). Growing up in a multi-faith society was important. I had friends who were Muslims, family members who were Buddhist as well as those who were Christian. I never had the sense that this (Christianity) is the only way. I always felt there were many paths to God. This was the kind of path that resonated with me.

“When times have been hard, at different times of my life, when I’ve felt alone or lonely, faith has been important to me. There are also moments of joy when you can feel faith or feel grace. You’re with your family and you feel blessed. It’s good to be thankful.” And prayer? “Yes (I do pray). I’m less at church than I used to be. I used to go to Sunday morning communion more often. You pray at different moments, moments when you’re quiet. I have to have moments when I find a bit of calm in my life. If I don’t, I don’t perform … I don’t think of God as a power to go to with a shopping list. I think more of asking for the patience or courage to cope. For me, it’s more asking that he walk with me.

“If I’m with my father and his side of the family, prayer is a much more explicit side of their life. He’ll say grace and give thanks for the family. I do find being in church incredibly moving.”

And what does Wong believe happens when we die? “I don’t know. I don’t believe we just end.”

LABOUR SENATOR KRISTINA KENEALLY (lower right)

There was a time Kristina Ken­eally was angry with God, deeply angry. Grief-stricken, devastated, Keneally was reacting to her daughter, Caroline, being stillborn in 1999. When Keneally talks of her daughter, even today, she often uses the present tense: “I have a stillborn daughter, Caroline. She’s my second child. I had this real sense I felt I knew how to have a baby. It hit me very hard. I can remember being very angry with God.”

At the same time, faith did not desert her: “I remember having gratitude that I did have faith, that Caroline’s life continued on, that she was not extinguished. At the same time, I was very angry that she wasn’t with me, that God could let this happen.”

I catch up with the US-born Keneally for a long discussion about her religious beliefs in ­Sydney.

She says: “When I first moved to Australia, I was struck by the absence of religion from the public conversation, the lack even of people to talk to about these things. I was starting a doctorate and at parties people would say: ‘What did you study?’ And I’d say religion and the conversation would end. They’d turn away, nothing more to be said.

“Then I joined the Labor Party. It was like: Oh, I found them. Politicians are more likely to be churchgoing than the population as a whole. They’re joiners, they’re inspired by social justice, they’re not embarrassed about saying they go to mass on Sunday.

“There’s still a lack of comfort about politicians of faith who talk publicly about the inspiration of their faith. That’s partly because while politicians tend to be more churchgoing than the population as a whole, they are reported on by journalists who tend to be less churchgoing than the general population.”

I ask whether the New Atheists have had any impact on her thinking: “It’s not persuasive to me to say that Christians have done some bad things; therefore, the Christian God does not exist. I believe human beings have a spiritual dimension.

“Virtually all cultures, including the Aboriginal culture, have a sense of connection with the spiritual dimension.”

What does Keneally believe comes after death?

“I believe I will continue to exist in some kind of spiritual dimension. The idea of existence forever somewhat terrifies me; inasmuch as I don’t want to be extinguished, my human mind cannot wrap itself around eternity … I believe I will be one with God.”

FORMER LABOUR DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER KIM BEAZELY (lower left)

I put Keneally’s suggestion that politicians are likelier to be religious than the general population to Kim Beazley. He thinks she’s right: “I agree that there is a much higher level of practice and belief among politicians.

“There is no such thing as a quiet soul in politics. You’re basically worried all the time in politics. You’re always anxious, always dealing with complex motivations and complex people. Also, politicians get isolated and the more isolated you get the more you need your religion.”

Faith remains fundamental to Beazley.

“I pray spasmodically. Invariably you pray at crisis points. And in ambassadorial life (Beazley was Australian ambassador to the US for six years), in ministerial life and in political life, you’re engaged in lots of crisis points.

“You don’t use prayer to seek an outcome for yourself; you use it to gain peace of mind.

“When I have been worried about my children I have prayed. You’re more likely to turn to your religion at times of stress.

“At times your doubts seem to overwhelm you. At different points of time you feel you’ve got a divine element in your life, then it goes away and you wonder if it was an illusion.”

What does Beazley believe happens after death?

“I don’t know. My faith tells me there is an afterlife, but your faith doesn’t tell you what it is. You have a sense that there will be something there.

“The people you’ve been close to, you feel a sense from time to time that they are still with you.”

“LAST DAYS” EVENTS ESCALATING AS PROPHECIED

Celebration of passing the Same Sex Marriage bill in Parliament House Canberra yesterday. Labour’s Senate leader Penny Wong is the one standing in the picture on the left. She has a particular interest as she is in a lesbian relationship and she and her partner have two girls. On the right, Bill Shorten, Labour’s leader takes part in a March to support the YES VOTE.

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Sadly, most of these people live their lives as if God does not exist, certainly not the God of the Bible who tells us that   to fear God is the  beginning of wisdom. Proverbs 1:7  At this time, I am also reminded of what Jesus said,

“If you abide in my WORD, you are truly My disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:31-32

God’s word also tells us, that “scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. They will say, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgement and destruction of the ungodly.

The world no longer believes that God judged the world just four thousand years ago. Only eight human survivors of a worldwide flood and yet the evidence of billions of things buried quickly all over the world is stark and ample evidence.

Probably the greatest proof of the authenticity of the Bible is fulfilled prophecy. Over 300 prophecies of Jesus first coming is enough, but do you know that there are many more prophecies concerning His second coming and these are beginning to unfold in our time. One of the most significant is the prophecy of Israel being reborn as a nation and that God would bring Jews back to Israel from all around the world. This is happening at an increasing rate as we approach the last seven years before Jesus return – The 70th Week of Daniel.

Many of the recent posts on this website clearly demonstrate we are in the “last days”. Another, very significant sign given by Jesus, is that in the “last days” there would be apostasy in the church. A great falling away, as the church no longer stands on God’s Word, heeding sound doctrine. Abortion, same sex marriage, gender fluidity and euthanasia are four abominations in God’s sight which will bring God’s judgement on nations that approve of these sins. Australia now joins those other nations that are going down this path of destruction. Judgement of Sodom and Gomorrah was a real historical event but the scoffers are blind.